tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post1238255521261339963..comments2023-09-28T07:23:51.376-07:00Comments on ProjectPerko: Augmented RealityCraig Perkohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13173752470581218239noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-44059202143794938222008-10-23T07:53:00.000-07:002008-10-23T07:53:00.000-07:00Wow, that looks almost exactly like what I was tal...Wow, that looks almost exactly like what I was talking about. There are a lot of iffy bits about their technology, but essentially, exactly!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link!Craig Perkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13173752470581218239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-81065186917006095192008-10-23T07:43:00.000-07:002008-10-23T07:43:00.000-07:00Have you seen this?It's certainly not a brilliant ...Have you seen <A HREF="http://www.techcrunch50.com/2008/conference/presenter.php?presenter=71" REL="nofollow">this?</A><BR/><BR/>It's certainly not a brilliant implementation of the GPS+gyroscope+camera+screen, but it's getting there, in terms of having a usable AR device.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-3471624045325259122008-10-19T09:30:00.000-07:002008-10-19T09:30:00.000-07:00It's not quite that simple: your eyes can't handle...It's not quite that simple: your eyes can't handle focusing on something an inch away, then ten meters away, then an inch away...<BR/><BR/>Hell, remember the virtual boy? It's hard on your eyes even without a background to draw your attention.<BR/><BR/>I agree that, in the long run, all those things will matter... but, in the short run, they're not possible. Still, I think that AR is important, even in the short run.Craig Perkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13173752470581218239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-5626957294489773732008-10-19T04:41:00.000-07:002008-10-19T04:41:00.000-07:00"saying that it's more important than I've worked ..."saying that it's more important than I've worked out."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Its simple;<BR/><BR/>A perfect AR device lets us replace any physical object we dont need to touch with a virtual one.<BR/>Thats hundreds, if not thousands, of human good replaced by one signal device.<BR/><BR/>More importantly, it can let anything look like anything else.<BR/><BR/>This is quite profound if you think about it.<BR/><BR/>What happens when a generation of humans will grow up with the ability to customise how they see the world?<BR/><BR/>Would not concepts like "style" and "fashion" become worthless?<BR/><BR/>Surely AR would lead to the complete victory of function over form?<BR/><BR/>Because while their will still be various styles people want...their will be no money attached to getting them.<BR/><BR/>--<BR/><BR/>Of course I speak about a "perfect" AR device. Such as the ones seen in "Denno Coil" (a realistic great anime set in the near very near future).<BR/><BR/>But it IS only the refinement of existing tech.<BR/>Smaller, lighter, better...but *existing* technology.<BR/><BR/>Thats why I think glass's are the way forward for now.<BR/>Unlike brain-implants or star-trek style eye-replacement, it can be done =today=, just crudely.<BR/><BR/>TOLED screen on a simple lens + GPS (/Galllio) + WiFiMax + GPU + Accelerators = AR specs.<BR/><BR/>Just needs to be put together!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11995986193895023836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-10743200798635929932008-10-18T11:43:00.000-07:002008-10-18T11:43:00.000-07:00I can get along with a screen that shows video of ...I can get along with a screen that shows video of the far side, but I think it's less than half as immersive: there's something about super-high-resolution many-distance real reality that adds, I think.<BR/><BR/>Still, I'd settle for it.<BR/><BR/>Actually, using this method, it may be possible to knock one together NOW out of a GPS, two electronic compasses, a camera, and a laptop.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm... that would be a fun project for someone who has the hardware. I'd write the code happily!Craig Perkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13173752470581218239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-10470521557182156522008-10-18T11:12:00.000-07:002008-10-18T11:12:00.000-07:00Driving is too purposeful to make cars a good aven...Driving is too purposeful to make cars a good avenue into AR, I think. In order to see its potential, you have to be able to explore a bit, and most people driving aren't interested in exploring at the same time.<BR/><BR/>You could have a screen that shows just video - what's on the other side of the screen and virtual objects, and I think that would work fine for the time being. I mean, crappy cellphone cameras can show you what they're being pointed at in real time, so a device specifically designed to do that should be able to do it with much better performance.<BR/><BR/>That said, being able to beam light directly into the user's eyes is the kind of thing I have in mind when I imagine the technology taking off.Ellipsishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13554930621825481241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-43339454006657916892008-10-18T10:52:00.000-07:002008-10-18T10:52:00.000-07:00I was thinking about the idea of augmented reality...I was thinking about the idea of augmented reality applying not to your own senses, but to the senses of roots, cars, etc. However, I don't think that's as close as you think.<BR/><BR/>There are cars with simple HUDs - my grandfather had one - but there are a lot of problems with this. Most important is the fact that you're driving a car: adding in more distractions is ill-advised.<BR/><BR/>Another problem I have is that augmenting reality for cars is significantly less invasive: it would be hard to make games out of it, hard to do anything other than GPS and simple traffic advice.<BR/><BR/>I don't know... I personally don't see cars with significant AR any time soon.Craig Perkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13173752470581218239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-48276247586344201272008-10-18T04:46:00.000-07:002008-10-18T04:46:00.000-07:00People are already geocoding pictures. Google map...People are already geocoding pictures. Google maps allows the linking of map locations to other resources on the net. <BR/><BR/>The problem that you two are discussing is the portability of the hardware. I think AR could become important much, much faster than you're projecting if implemented for vehicles. What if your windshield has a HUD or is a touch screen that normally plays the exterior camera feeds but can also layer data from the various reality circles and data feeds to which you subscribe? <BR/><BR/>And not only is GPS going to matter, but I expect RFID to continue to proliferate -- probably massively. Every car within your scan-range (even if that's only the ones adjacent to you) will have the equivalent of a Facebook page. What if every driver is using this tech to get somewhere and they tell an on-board system where they're going when they start and the vehicles form a mesh network sharing some abstraction of that info? Then, over every other car on the road is a dim arrow suggesting which direction they'll be heading so that you can make smarter lane-change decisions.<BR/><BR/>Does your understanding of AR *require* a pseudo-direct sensory interface?Christopher Weekshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640683757330420292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-75649818578981438652008-10-18T00:56:00.000-07:002008-10-18T00:56:00.000-07:00The problem is in the display: a display that clos...The problem is in the display: a display that close to your eyes isn't doing you any favors, especially if it's transparent: your eyes will have to either focus on it or on the world behind it.<BR/><BR/>There's some evidence we might be able to beam light into the eyes in such a way as to make it seem like it's coming from particular distances, but that technology is a lot more advanced than it might seem. I don't see it being feasible any time soon.Craig Perkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13173752470581218239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-75740397269636475112008-10-18T00:05:00.000-07:002008-10-18T00:05:00.000-07:00I'll admit that the idea started sounding more rea...I'll admit that the idea started sounding more reasonable to me even as I was in the middle of writing my comment (the "unless you mean laptop" was a legitimate consideration).<BR/><BR/>But, call me superficial, but I'm still caught up on the stylish goggles thought. I don't see a screen as being immersive enough, and any kind of surgery is possibly too invasive...I'm thinking of a device on the order of a bluetooth headset, that's easy to put on and be in the system.Ellipsishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13554930621825481241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-68596246966943207592008-10-17T23:41:00.000-07:002008-10-17T23:41:00.000-07:00I do mean "laptop", although technically I mean "l...I do mean "laptop", although technically I mean "lightweight display for laptop". I think that once we get some useful digital paper (or similar), we'll see an explosion of laptops with detachable screens - the sorts of screens that would be very useful for this.<BR/><BR/>The idea here is that it is the MINIMUM possible for the technology. I don't think it will take off at that level, but I do think that will drum up more support, prove the concepts, and THEN it will take off.Craig Perkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13173752470581218239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11758224.post-155429260895374822008-10-17T22:35:00.000-07:002008-10-17T22:35:00.000-07:00I agree that AR will have huge consequences.I disa...I agree that AR will have huge consequences.<BR/><BR/>I disagree, though, that it will be important before we're all wearing AR goggles. I just don't think people will find it compelling to carry a screen around with them everywhere...unless by screen, you mean laptop.<BR/><BR/>I can imagine the basic idea of giving virtual objects a physical location picking up before the goggles do, but when we're talking about AR, the presentation really is part of the core concept, and I think that while technologies like you describe will likely be developed and used by some of us, AR will not become a truly relevant technology until someone comes out with a pair of stylish-looking AR goggles - the ipod of AR.<BR/><BR/>In short, convenience and ease-of-access are what would let AR take off.Ellipsishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13554930621825481241noreply@blogger.com